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bentley 8 hours ago [-]
The NetSurf browser the author tried out has multiple frontends. Two run on OpenBSD that I know of, the “default” GTK frontend and an SDL‐based framebuffer frontend. As was pointed out, GTK has a rather sizeable number of dependencies; building the framebuffer frontend instead would save a lot of time.
classichasclass 7 hours ago [-]
(author) Is there a way to specifically build the framebuffer version from the ports tree? I didn't see one.
bentley 7 hours ago [-]
/usr/ports/www/netsurf/netsurf-fb/
classichasclass 6 hours ago [-]
Thanks, I'll try that.
anthk 6 hours ago [-]
Mainline Dillo runs faster and smoother, it's just an fltk + git clone && configure +make install away.
1vuio0pswjnm7 2 hours ago [-]
"However, I can find no evidence that Richard Stallman had/has a dog, or indeed any pet."
According to his own disclosures, he has a fear of dogs
I don't think these machines achieved much popularity in China either, as standard PCs were far more common and compatible with the existing software base.
the keyboard and trackpad are internally PS/2.
Interesting that the PC influence is still there, although I'm pretty sure a MIPS doesn't have them on port 60h/64h, or indeed any I/O ports. I remember having a similar moment of surprise when I played around with an ARM VM and discovered it had a "VGA-compatible" GPU emulating an old ISA-class chip.
justin66 5 hours ago [-]
A decade’s worth of SGI machines combined MIPS processors with PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports.
walrus01 1 hours ago [-]
To be fair to that there wasn't really any other viable mass-market interface that the keyboard manufacturers in China/Taiwan could standardize on. The PS/2 keyboard interface was backwards compatible with an AT keyboard through the user of a passive physical pin adapter. And USB didn't exist yet.
justin66 1 hours ago [-]
Oddly enough, the SGI Fuel (also the Tezro, I think) had PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports but also offered USB ports and support for HID devices in IRIX.
I have no idea whether the keyboard and mouse that shipped with those later SGIs were PS/2 or USB devices.
edit: IMO there was nothing wrong with preferring PS/2 to USB 20-some years ago. Higher theoretical refresh rate on the PS/2 mouse at that time and the PS/2 keyboard offered better n-key rollover, although I question whether any of that mattered one way or the other to an SGI owner
walrus01 1 hours ago [-]
In x86 i386 world there was a good long overlap of ATX/MicroATX motherboards shipping with both PS/2 keyboard/mouse ports and also USB ports on them, starting from 1998 era Pentium 2/3 systems when USB first became commonplace and continuing until probably 2010 or so.
classichasclass 4 hours ago [-]
(author) My understanding is that they're wired into the AMD southbridge which provides them over memory mapped I/O.
JdeBP 9 hours ago [-]
The wsconscfg problem with multiple screens, whatever it exactly is, is decidedly odd. According to this, the display is being driven as smfb0 in what is largely a dumb framebuffer mode, no acceleration, no GPU, no fancy high jinks whatsoever. wscons/wsdisplay should have no difficulty with multiple screens on that sort of thing.
anthk 8 hours ago [-]
No computer is obsolete with a BSD. I still use an n270 netbook daily.
Narishma 5 hours ago [-]
Same here. I have a Samsung NC10 netbook with that same CPU which I recently converted from Debian to NetBSD when they dropped 32-bit support.
iberator 7 hours ago [-]
Acer aspire one with NetBSD
shrubble 7 hours ago [-]
It’s tough to find them on eBay; I wonder what the right search terms are?
mattst88 4 hours ago [-]
I think they're super uncommon in the west.
I think they're also super useless, to be honest. Incredibly slow. Linux support continued to degrade the entire time I owned mine. The keyboard and display are far too small to be usable. The graphics chip accelerates basically nothing.
I sold mine [1] on eBay back in October. I hope the new owner enjoys it more than I did :)
I still think it is very cursed to see that image of RMS using that laptop despite I was shocked to see it 12 years ago. Still shocks me to this day.
em-bee 9 hours ago [-]
what is shocking about it?
sellmesoap 8 hours ago [-]
I think because it's RMS champion of digital openess using using an archaine Chinese laptop, it's the dichotomy of China providing a product that's essentially more free (of binary blob firmware) then a western equivalent laptop. Take heed and dispare oh ye providers of win modems!
According to his own disclosures, he has a fear of dogs
https://web.archive.org/web/20120119135147if_/https://secure...
the keyboard and trackpad are internally PS/2.
Interesting that the PC influence is still there, although I'm pretty sure a MIPS doesn't have them on port 60h/64h, or indeed any I/O ports. I remember having a similar moment of surprise when I played around with an ARM VM and discovered it had a "VGA-compatible" GPU emulating an old ISA-class chip.
I have no idea whether the keyboard and mouse that shipped with those later SGIs were PS/2 or USB devices.
edit: IMO there was nothing wrong with preferring PS/2 to USB 20-some years ago. Higher theoretical refresh rate on the PS/2 mouse at that time and the PS/2 keyboard offered better n-key rollover, although I question whether any of that mattered one way or the other to an SGI owner
I think they're also super useless, to be honest. Incredibly slow. Linux support continued to degrade the entire time I owned mine. The keyboard and display are far too small to be usable. The graphics chip accelerates basically nothing.
I sold mine [1] on eBay back in October. I hope the new owner enjoys it more than I did :)
[1] https://mattst88.com/computers/yeeloong/